Episode 101 :: Julian Adkins, Anantacitta Tunnell, Dana Nourie :: Secular Buddhism U.K.

| January 27, 2012 | 7 Comments

Julian Adkins

Julian Adkins, Anantacitta Tunnell, and Dana Nourie join us to talk about a new website dedicated to growing the Secular Buddhist community in the U.K.

Every week, I get email from listeners to the podcast, and from people who’ve found the Secular Buddhist Association site. Take this one from Michael R. just the other day: “I would like to take a moment to thank you for developing and establishing your website. It fulfills a need I’ve long attempted to satisfy. My interest and practice of Buddhism is strongly oriented along the same lines of what I perceive to be those of John Peacock’s, Stephen Batchelor’s and Steve Hagen’s. However, it was not until I encountered your site that I realized there was a community that appeared to resonate for me. Anyway, I wish merely to express my gratitude and look forward to the SBA’s continued growth.”

Thanks you, Michael. And everyone else who writes in, we appreciate your involvement, your ideas, stories, and suggestions, and are very grateful that you’re finding value in this community building effort. We’re only just beginning, and in the next few years we’re going to see some amazing and exciting things.

One of the challenges we face is that our practice is about dissatisfaction, its causes and conditions. As the listeners here know, that takes effort, an honest and sometimes hard look at our minds and why we do the things we do. Forgive the pun, but the value of this “pre-meditated” effort is a difficult message to convey in part because people don’t want to hear that there’s work to do.

An example I posted on the FaceBook page demonstrates this. As of this recording, we have a comfortable number over two thousand Likes on FaceBook. In contrast, the FaceBook page for The Secret, a book and even DVD about using wishful thinking to get what you want, has well over two million Likes. Being told it’s easy, and that you are your own wish fulfilling gem is very appealing. So I ask that if you are finding value in this podcast, head over to iTunes and write a review, or just simply rate it. If you like what you see on the websites, tell others. So many people would also find value in this approach to the teaching and practice, if we just let them know. Today’s episode is about just that, the growing of the online and now face to face secular Buddhist community.

Julian describes himself as having had several incarnations – all very much in this life time! He has taken the role of professional classical ballet dancer, water engineer, design draftsman and registered nurse, but now realises these are merely activities and not identities. The beginning of this minor realisation came ten years ago when he first began learning about and engaging with Buddhist meditation practices. He is a founder member of Edinburgh Secular Sangha, a grass roots community in Scotland committed to secular, naturalistic expressions of the Dharma. As well as Dharma practice evenings the Secular Sangha also runs practice evenings devoted to mindfulness based stress reduction and cognitive therapy. However, Julian is passionate about engaging with the Dharma as a way of life that includes every dimension of the eightfold path as well as therapy.

Anantacitta Tunnell

Anantacitta Tunnel has been a Buddhist since 1992 and was ordained in 2002. He trained in a Western Buddhist tradition, but felt frustrated and constrained. He started reading some of Stephen Batchelor’s books and found them refreshing and liberating, and so went on some retreats lead by Stephen and his wife, Martine. Anantacitta is now a Secular Buddhist as a result. Along with is wife Marcella, he lives in Birmingham, England and work as a Social Worker. Anantacitta also teaches meditation to beginners in a local Complementary Health Clinic, and he support the Birmingham Secular Meditation Practitioners Group.

Dana Nourie

Dana Nourie does not label herself a Buddhist, though she does practice Buddha’s teachings and associates with Secular Buddhists. She has been a guest on The Secular Buddhist podcast many times, and has been the primary blogger on The Secular Buddhist blog.

So, sit back, relax, and have a nice Earl Grey. We are talking about Secular Buddhism in the U.K., after all.

 

Music for This Episode

Hon Shirabe

Rodrigo Rodriguez

The music heard in the middle of the podcast is from Rodrigo Rodriguez’s CD, Shakuhachi Meditations. The track used in this episode is:

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Ted Meissner

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Ted Meissner is the host of the podcast Present Moment: Mindfulness Practice and Science. He has been a meditator since the early 90’s, has been interviewed for Books and Ideas, Mindful Lives, and The Whole Leader podcasts, spoken about mindfulness with various groups including Harvard Humanist Hub, and has written for Elephant Journal and The International Journal of Whole Person Care. He is the Executive Director of the Secular Buddhist Association, host of the SBA’s official podcast The Secular Buddhist, and is on the Advisory Board for the Spiritual Naturalist Society. Ted’s background is in the Zen and Theravada traditions, he is a regular speaker on interfaith panel discussions, and is interested in examining the evolution of contemplative practice in contemporary culture. Ted teaches Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) at the Center for Mindfulness in Medicine, Health Care & Society, where he is the Manager of Online Programming and Community Development.

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  1. stoky says:

    Again a great episode. I found the “a bunch of people having a discussion and sharing thoughts and experiences” setup to be quite refreshing after a lot of “interview” episodes.

    Regarding the need to raise funds and the fear of creating any kind of pressure for people to donate, I read a nice line of words at the webpage for the dhamma-dana-Projekt (Projekt = project) [1]. It translates to something like:

    “The Dhamma of the Buddha is a gift for us all and the society we live in. […] This gift of Dhamma is much more than words, teachings and meditation instructions. Dhamma can only be a gift, because it can only be given, it never can be taken. Its nature is to be shared and recycled within a cycle of large-heartedness and not a cycle of desire.”

    I like this especially because it sets a tone of ‘Even if you give us money, you don’t buy anything, because it’s not possible to buy the dhamma’.

    Maybe this helps you to set up a text that clarifies your relation to donations for the reader/donater.

    [1] http://www.dhamma-dana.de/dhamma-dana-projekt.htm

    • Ted Meissner Ted Meissner says:

      I hope you also noticed, Stoky, that your blog is now one of those linked under Secular Buddhist Partners at the top of the Partners page on this site. It’s wonderful to see this seed planted as Secular Buddhism now has web presences based in Germany, the U.K., Canada, and the U.S.

      More to come, thank you so much for being here and for participating in your home country!

  2. NaturalEntrust says:

    Cool that they have a Secular Buddhist group in England too.
    Sad that I am such a confused guy here in Sweden.
    I would like us to have such group too so in case Swedes read this
    to join these two groups and contact me and other Swedes.

    • Ted Meissner Ted Meissner says:

      Maybe there’s a meditation group near you? Otherwise, you are welcome to join us online, we’ll be starting a face to face group. The time of day might be a problem, but it’s just the first offering, more will come for our international crowd!

  3. Dan Hanly Dan Hanly says:

    This is perhaps some thread resurrection, given that the last comment was in 2012, however, I’m listening to the old episodes in order from the beginning and I just got to this one.

    The site doesn’t seem to be operational any more, unfortunately. What ever happened to it?

    Kinda strange since it’s something that applied directly to me, being UK based myself.

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