On Subtracting What You Don’t Like

| January 29, 2013 | 14 Comments

Here’s a tweet I got after mentioning a naturalized Buddhism:

Okaaaaay…. couldn’t you do the same with any religion? Subtract the parts you don’t like?

It’s a question that deserves more than a 140 character response.

Editing Religions 

A three-character response to that tweet would be simple: yes. Given any religion, one is always free to pick and choose as one likes, though in so doing one may run up against cultural or institutional problems. The same is less true for philosophical systems like Aristotelianism or Socratic ethics, since they lack the same baggage. At any rate, obviously one doesn’t need to believe in Aristotelian momentum in order to be a contemporary virtue ethicist, for example. When we look to past thinkers to inform present day discussions, we do so for inspiration, and to learn as much from their mistakes as their discoveries. We don’t ordinarily look to the past to adopt positions simply because they bear the weight of tradition. To begin with, there is too much tradition in the past; we are required to pick and choose whether we wish to or not. There is no rule that says we have to pick and choose by book- or tradition-sized chunks.

A better question is whether when we subtract the parts we don’t like, in our case the supernatural parts of Buddhism, we are left with anything very substantive or interesting. To a certain extent this is a personal matter: opinions will differ. But to take one example, if we subtract the supernatural parts from something like Christianity, it’s not clear exactly what we are left with, besides community around some ethical teachings. The standard Christian and Islamic creeds depend on the belief in supernatural events and beings. Of course, any text can be reinterpreted non-literally, but at least for my own sake I don’t quite see the point of pursuing a religious doctrine oriented around eternal salvation in heaven at the side of God through Jesus’s sacrifice and rebirth if in fact heaven and God don’t really exist and Jesus was never really reborn. It seems to me too close to living a fiction.

Some will feel a sense of place in a religious text simply as a work of literature or cultural symbolism. In varieties of Reform Judaism, for example, religious belief of any sort shades off into culture: one can be a fully atheistic, naturalist Reform Jew. Doubtless many who see themselves in that light get benefit in living through cultural aspects of a religion organized around the Tanakh and its commentaries. Personally, apart from Ecclesiastes I do not find the Bible to be a source of ethical or practical advice. Although I enjoy some of its stories, I don’t see that they are any more compelling or beautiful than those found in other ancient tales, or modern ones for that matter. So that isn’t a path that I find particularly fruitful.

Traditional Buddhism

Similar arguments can be made about Buddhism: Donald Lopez argues that Buddhism is no more amenable to naturalization than is any other religion. He argues that the very notion of a scientifically tractable Buddhism is a Victorian conceit. The aim of the Buddha was to escape from an endless round of karmic rebirths, and to do so he advocated behaving in such a way that you would not get yourself reborn in hell. Further, he claimed all sorts of supernatural powers and abilities for himself and other arahants.

Lopez’s implication is that if we subtract the parts of traditional Buddhism that we don’t like, in particular the supernaturalist, non-scientific parts, we tear out its heart. One of the best introductions to Buddhist thought puts it as clearly as Lopez might:

It is difficult to see what would be left of Buddhism as it is traditionally understood with a denial of rebirth. (Williams, Tribe, Wynne. Buddhist Thought, 2nd ed., p. 204)

Insofar as we know anything about the historical Buddha, there is no doubt that he accepted and taught plenty that is incompatible with modern science. The subtext of my erstwhile tweeter may be to wonder whether Lopez is right, and therefore whether anything of real interest remains if we set traditional Buddhism aside. The question that confronts us, then, is whether “Buddhism as it is traditionally understood” is something we can dispense with while retaining something that is still Buddhism.

It will come as no surprise that I think we can.

Editing Buddhism

There is hardly a better example of traditional Theravada Buddhist scholarship in the west than Bhikkhu Bodhi. He begins his discussion of the Eightfold Path this way:

The essence of the Buddha’s teaching can be summed up in two principles: the Four Noble Truths and the Noble Eightfold Path. The first covers the side of doctrine, and the primary response it elicits is understanding; the second covers the side of discipline, in the broadest sense of that word, and the primary response it calls for is practice. In the structure of the teaching these two principles lock together into an indivisible unity called the dhamma-vinaya, the doctrine-and-discipline, or, in brief, the Dhamma.

Here is the point any serious-minded Secular Buddhist should make: following Bodhi, the essence of the Buddha’s teaching is the Four Noble Truths and the Noble Eightfold Path. Neither one essentially involve anything supernatural.

There are counterarguments, of course. In particular, the “Right View” that makes up the first of the eight “folds” of the path can be seen to include the view that rebirth occurs, that karma is real and active, and that liberated beings have supernatural powers. This is traditionally known as “mundane Right View”, as Bodhi points out in that very article. However, at its deepest and most profound, “Right View” is composed of, and therefore recursively interpenetrates with, the Four Noble Truths. (E.g., Mahāsatipaṭṭhāna Sutta, Digha Nikāya 22, para. 21). To have Right View, at its deepest and most profound, is to fully comprehend suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path leading to its cessation.

The Four Noble Truths

So then let us look at the Four Noble Truths. The First Noble Truth is the truth that dukkha or suffering is unavoidable. To be clear, the Buddha does at times link dukkha with the endless rounds of rebirth. For example,

The stream of tears that you have shed as you roamed and wandered through this long course, weeping and wailing because of being united with the disagreeable and separated from the agreeable — this alone is more than the water in the four great oceans. For a long time, bhikkhus, you have experienced the death of a mother … you have experienced the death of a father … a brother … a sister … a son … a daughter … relatives … the loss of wealth … loss through illness …

One person, roaming and wandering on hindered by ignorance and fettered by craving, would leave behind a stack of bones, a heap of bones, a pile of bones as large as this Mount Vepulla, if there were someone there to collect them and what is collected would not perish. …

The stream of blood that you have shed when you were beheaded as you roamed and wandered on through this long course — this alone is more than the water in the four great oceans. For a long time, bhikkhus, you have been cows, and when as cows you were beheaded, the stream of blood that you shed is greater than the waters in the four great oceans. For a long time you have been buffalo, sheep, goats, deer, chickens, and pigs. … For a long time you have been arrested as burglars, highwaymen, and adulterers, and when you were beheaded, the stream of blood that you shed is greater than the water in the four great oceans. For what reason? Because, bhikkhus, this saṃsāra is without discoverable beginning. It is enough to experience disillusionment towards all formations, enough to become dispassionate towards them, enough to be liberated from them. (Anamataggasaṃyutta, Saṃyutta Nikāya 15, nos. 3, 10, 13).

For the Buddha, part of the awfulness of dukkha is its literal beginninglessness. But the reality of dukkha retains its force whether or not beginninglessness is taken literally. We may not literally have turned to bones in the past, we may not literally have been beheaded, but we have experienced sorrow and disillusionment nonetheless, and are set to do so again in the future. That is all that is required to anchor the first of the Noble Truths.

The Second Noble Truth is that craving is the main cause of mental suffering or dukkha. This is perhaps open to investigation, but not something that requires any supernatural element, even under a traditional interpretation.

The Third Noble Truth is that there is an end to suffering, which is nibbāna, traditionally understood as the complete and permanent extinguishing of the fires of greed, hatred, and delusion, through a complete understanding of the Four Noble Truths. Once again, this is not clearly a claim that requires any supernatural element, even in a traditional interpretation, with the exception of the ancillary claim that this extinguishing also ends the cycle of literal rebirths. The ancillary claim is real and substantive, but it is debatable whether it’s something that makes a real difference to practice or intention. One who does not believe in literal rebirth is faced with extinguishing anyhow. The only question is how to face it.

There are issues with nibbāna, however, that must be dealt with.  In particular, the state’s claimed absolute purity and absolute security seem implausible. Any state, particularly one that is ongoing, is liable to imperfection and decay. It’s also not clear that we could know of the existence of such a state without actually having been in it ourselves. So there is certainly room for secular skepticism about the Third Noble Truth.

But this should not overly concern us, for two reasons. To take Lopez’s focus on traditional Buddhism first, the Buddha himself considered knowledge of nibbāna to be little more than hearsay until one reached the relatively advanced stage of “stream entry”. He says explicitly that it is correct to be agnostic about nibbāna until one sees it for oneself.

… a wise man considers thus: ‘These good recluses and brahmins hold the doctrine and view “there is definitely no nibbāna,” but that has not been seen by me. And these other good recluses and brahmins hold the doctrine and view “there definitely is nibbāna,” but that has not been seen by me. If, without knowing and seeing, I were to take one side and declare: “Only this is true, anything else is wrong,” that would not be fitting for me. …’ (Apaṇṇaka Sutta, Majjhima Nikāya 60, para. 34. Taking “bhavanirodha” as “nibbāna”).

Instead what the Buddha suggests is that one follow the path that tends towards a diminution of clinging, and see where it leads. This is the Fourth Noble Truth, which is the Eightfold Path itself. The path, as Bhikkhu Bodhi put it, is one of discipline and practice. We have dealt with its essential views already; otherwise, as practice, its execution is at right angles with questions about supernaturalism. One can believe or not, but one still should avoid killing, stealing, lying, and so on; one should still practice concentration and insight meditation. Once again, none of this requires supernaturalism. We can subtract all we need from the Eightfold Path and still retain the practice.

The only non-naturalistic understanding of practice involves supernormal mental states like the iddhis. I daresay that one even finds skepticism about these states among traditional practitioners. At any rate, they are not requisites of the path, but rather even within a traditional interpretation are seen as mundane capabilities of people that have mastered deep states of mental absorption. Again, while they are part of the picture of traditional Buddhism, nothing essential is lost by asserting that such abilities cannot exist, given our current understanding of science. The Four Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path do not require them.

On Subtraction

So what is the issue with “subtracting the parts you don’t like” of some ancient system of beliefs? It comes down to a question of authenticity, in a way: in so doing, are we authentic practitioners of our chosen path, or are we just somehow fooling ourselves?

It seems to me all paths may be similarly authentic if practiced honestly and honorably. But with respect to a naturalized path of the sort on offer here, I would only say this, in response to those like Donald Lopez who might look upon it as simply another anachronism. It would be unusual to find a contemporary, traditional practitioner of Christianity, Judaism, or Islam who would sum up “the essence” of their teaching without the use of explicitly and intentionally supernatural language. That this happens in Buddhism gives at least a little daylight. It may be that of contemporary religions Buddhism is the most amenable to secular interpretation. Or, to say it a different way, when one subtracts what is not scientifically tractable from Buddhist belief and practice, one does not destroy it.

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Doug has a PhD in Philosophy, with a minor in Buddhist philosophy and Sanskrit. In 2013 he completed the year-long Integrated Study and Practice Program with the BCBS and NYIMC. As a long time scientific skeptic, he pursues a naturalized approach to practice. He is also interested in scholarship about the Tripiṭaka, and the theoretical and historical origins of the dhamma.

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  1. frankjude says:

    Obviously, as someone who teaches what I call Zen Naturalism, I agree with you. I think Lopez and his ilk are simply wrong. In fact, for me, it’s a non-issue.

    However, I would like to address your assertion regarding christianity. There are many examples of creative cherry-picking and/or re-interpretation that jettisons the supernaturalism of christianity. Perhaps the most famous example is Thomas Jefferson. As a Deist, one might say he still had some supernaturalist views, but the “Jefferson Bible” is quite a text!

    More contemporary, folk like John Shelby Spong and Don Cupitt are creating more secular views of christianity. Are you familiar with his powerful essay, “A Secular Christian” which if not, you can read here:

    http://www.londoninsight.org/images/uploads/DC_A_Secular_Christian.pdf

    • Doug Smith Doug Smith says:

      Yes, I am familiar with Jefferson’s Deism and indirectly with Spong. I don’t mean to claim that one cannot have a secular Christianity. My claim is substantially weaker: that one loses less of Buddhism in this regard than Christianity. I think Jefferson is a good example, in that it’s not clear he was a Christian at all.

      Of course, eventually all these discussions devolve into semantics.

  2. frankjude says:

    I see. And I wasn’t trying to pick an argument, just wanting to see what you thought of these efforts. I agree about Jefferson, and other Christians have certainly made that accusation of Spong — though those critics are pretty similar to Lopez!

    You didn’t mention Cupitt, who is perhaps the more radical of the three I mentioned. Just curious what you think about his paper — given at the same seminar that Batchelor declared he was a secular buddhist!

    • Doug Smith Doug Smith says:

      I’m happy if people find meaning in liberal, secularized versions of [insert-religion-here] rather than their more conservative, literalist counterparts, of course. But I don’t always think these ‘Lopez-ian’ critiques are false. Much the opposite: there is often a lot of truth to them, which is why they require contemplation.

      Cupitt’s paper is interesting, but I am confused as to what sort of Christianity he is really proposing. It seems he is interested in getting to a genuinely historical Jesus. But a historical Jesus (as, for example, one finds well explained by contemporary scholars like Bart Ehrman) has it that he was a Jewish end-times preacher, very much in the mold of the later prophets. He was preaching to a Jewish audience who he felt needed to be reformed along the lines of a purified Jewish law before the kingdom of God, which he believed would come in the lifetime of his disciples. I think this was the essence of his message. I don’t see how Cupitt’s apparent interest in scholarly exactness reveals a Jesus who is really very interesting to us nowadays as a spiritual leader. But in this, I can only speak for myself, of course.

  3. Rick says:

    Good article. Reminded me of a time when a discussion board called “e-Sangha” was in operation. In the Zen Buddhism section we were generally of the opinion that many of the less-verifible, less-naturalistic, parts of Buddhism could be set aside (if not wholly ignore) as not germaine to the immediate “goals” of Buddhism. The literal interpretation of rebirth was the foremost of these.

    These discussions devolved, as members of other sects (ahem, Tibetans) would leave messages implying, no actually stating for a fact, that the denial of any tenets meant we were not “true” Buddhists. Finally, e-Sangha took the stance that any denial of literal rebirth would result in being banned from the site.

    Traditionalists will to tell us that we’re simply not “mature” enough to decide what is or isn’t valid, that we should accept everything. And they may have a point.

  4. Mark Knickelbine says:

    Doug, overall a good article, making the point that the key elements of practice — what Gotama advised us to actually do — require no supernatural underpinning.

    I would caution about one statement, however:
    “. . . the Buddha himself considered knowledge of nibbāna to be little more than hearsay until one reached the relatively advanced stage of “stream entry”.”

    The notion that “stream entry” is a relatively advanced state is certainly Theravadin orthodoxy, but it is not consistently supported by the suttas. There is Samyutta Nikaya 55:2, for instance, in which Gotama says that the stream enterer is one who has confirmed confidence in the awakening of Gotama, in the dhamma, and in the sangha, and who possesses the virtues dear to the noble ones — which sounds like what we call “taking refuge.” In chapter 5 of the same samyutta, Sariputta says that one who posesses the eightfold path is a stream enterer. There is Majhima Nikaya 73, in which Gotama says hundreds of his lay followers are stream enterers, and the story of Sarakani the Sakyan in SN 55:24, in which Gotama declares that the town drunk was a stream enterer. Nibbana, “extinguishing” or “going out”, refers to the extinguishing of the fires of greed hate and delusion — something anyone who practices diligently can experience for themselves, if not on a total and final basis.

    • Doug Smith Doug Smith says:

      Thanks for that, Mark. I’ll have to look into it further. At any rate whatever we say about stream entry, the basic point still stands, which is that the Buddha said it was justifiable to be agnostic about nibbāna until one had seen it for oneself.

  5. Dana Nourie Dana Nourie says:

    Nice article, Doug! I chose a long time ago to look at rebirth as a metaphor for how the self is mentally created, or born, and how letting go of it dissolves suffering. That may not be the original intent of the Buddha or those who write about him. But in my own practice I see the cycle of rebirth of the self, the suffering it causes, and it’s death, repeatedly throughout the day. One could argue, that when we no longer attach to that self or crave for it, one reaches in nibanna. The cycle has ended. I am skeptical that this is possible, but I do experience it, and indeed at those time there is only equanimity.

    • Doug Smith Doug Smith says:

      Yes, thanks, Dana. I too experience times of real equanimity and happiness, particularly in meditation. I’m skeptical as to whether this constitutes anything like a real ‘nibbanic’ experience, but I don’t really think it matters. What matters is that the practice is fruitful on a day-to-day basis. Let the future take care of itself. Right?

  6. Robert Schenck Robert Schenck says:

    Sounds right to me. It’s the elementary Buddhism I learned from a friend and which I’ve been practicing since 1974. It works nicely with elementary Socratic philosophy stripped also of its supernatural elements. It appears to me that Buddha and Socrates basically teach the same thing.

    • Doug Smith Doug Smith says:

      Thanks very much, Robert. Elsewhere I’ve followed Owen Flanagan in comparing the Buddha to Aristotle. Though I do think the comparison with Socrates and Plato is equally interesting, it is bound to be somewhat more controversial, in that Plato is usually viewed as one of the great propounders of the eternalism of objects, and the Buddha is not.

      • Robert Schenck Robert Schenck says:

        Right, Doug, and I wouldn’t want to insist upon the specifics of the parallel, but the Myth of Er in “The Republic” is quite similar to the more crude version of reincarnation sometimes promulgated in Buddhism, and of all the descriptions of awakening that I have read, and I have read many, I still think the Allegory of the Cave in “The Republic” is best. Yes, the Platonic eternalism of forms doesn’t fit, but I suspect a smarter, better informed scholar than I might be able to suggest that in some respects it does resemble the Buddhist paradox of “form and emptiness,” the more so if we accept the mahayana teachings about “original enlightenment” and “buddha nature” (criticized as specious by Hakamaya and Matsumoto). But as just a lay reader of both the Socratic dialogues and the Buddhist dialogues, what I find most inspiring and educational in the parallel is the equanimity of the two teachers, their encouragement of curiosity, doubt, inquiry, reason, and the underlying premise of the Golden Rule, stated explicitly in Plato’s “Gorgias.” Anyway, I suspect these considerations are already more than familiar to you. It just pleases me to write them down because the examples of Socrates and Buddha have been so valuable to me for fifty years—(1) dissatisfaction and doubt about conventional “wisdom,” (2) determined inquiry and analysis, (3) awakening to truth, (4) dedication to teaching others.

        Robert

  7. Gavin says:

    Thank you for this article. Selectively incorporating elements from Buddhism into a new practice is what I find so liberating about this idea of “secular Buddhism.” In social terms, however, I am finding this selectivity to be alienating. I found that it was easier to just practice in a (Zen) sangha and remain quiet about my own theological grievances. Deciding that the ability to select and reject elements from a tradition is more important than the institutional cohesiveness of a sangha is a difficult decision. The price for a more custom-tailored Buddhist practice is the loss of a sangha, meaning solitary practice. Of course, if enough people consistently adopt a similarly selective Buddhist practice, at some point a sangha forms.

    Again, thanks for the article.

    - Gavin

    • Doug Smith Doug Smith says:

      Hi Gavin and thanks. I agree that a skeptical, nit-picky attitude can be alienating. Of course, having such an attitude doesn’t force one to give up practice in a sangha, unless the sangha itself is doing the forcing. I think it’s possible for contemporary sanghas to have a broad base of practitioners, including more-or-less secular ones. That won’t be true everywhere, but by raising the awareness of secular approaches, members may have more of an awareness of options they only dimly understood. That can be another alternative to solitary practice, or a practice made up solely of secular-minded members.

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