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Dana-
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Post Modern books on Buddhism
on: August 4, 2012, 12:09
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I want to remind everyone that Ted keeps pretty good tabs on Buddhist books out there, and organizes them quite nicely on this page: http://secularbuddhism.org/resources/resources-books/

Many of us have read most of these books, so if you have questions, want to discuss any particular book, this forum is a great place to open those conversations!

Thank you!

Dana Nourie
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Candol
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Post Re: Modern books on Buddhism
on: August 5, 2012, 01:12
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Dana i was thinking the other night how I would love to read a book about not-self. I reckon you could do a good job on writing a clear and useful book on that topic. Does it have any interest for you?

I like you writing style and find it very clear and logical. And i like whatever i've read that you have said about this slippery topic.

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Post Re: Modern books on Buddhism
on: August 5, 2012, 09:46
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Thank you, Candol. Not Self is such a fascinating topic, and I would enjoy writing about it, however, as I've been a professional writer for yeas, I know a book is not something I want to invest time in write now. But thank you for the compliment!

I would like to suggest a few books out there that I found incredibly helpful to my practice, even though they are not from the Buddhist perspective, but they are indeed about how our brains and our psychologies create various types of self, how flexible these processes can be. If while you read these you keep in mind what you know of clinging and attachment, you can put together how you might run into problems with attaching to these selfing processes. You can also then watch in your daily life how you go about creating many types of self, and then you can practice observing them without attachment and see how that feels.

The easy part, as you have mentioned in other posts, is letting go of the idea of a permanent soul, as many of us don't believe that any way. The complex part for us is, but what about that feeling of self that arises when we're angry, when we want to cling to things, our ideas about ourselves, etc. So, these books will help identify those processes, and then you can observe through mindfulness and meditation:

* The Self Illusion: How the Social Brain Creates Identity by Bruce Hood
* The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the Mind and the Myth of the Self by Thomas Metzinger
* Synaptic Self: How Our Brains Become Who We Are by Joseph LeDoux (Author)

For the first, I think you read my review, but for those who did not, it may be helpful for the first book:

http://secularbuddhism.org/2012/07/14/if-not-self-then-what/

and Ginger Campbell did a great podcast with Thomas Metzinger for the Brain Science Podcast: http://www.brainsciencepodcast.com/bsp/thomas-metzinger-explores-consciousness-bsp-67.html

But I'm also happy to write more on this topic as well. I find not self one of the most fascinating areas of Buddhism and neuroscience, and one of the most challenging areas of letting go. But ultimately the most rewarding once you do!

Dana Nourie
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Candol
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Post Re: Modern books on Buddhism
on: August 5, 2012, 10:31
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Well that's too bad but i didn't really expect you'd jump on it. Maybe someone else would want to have a go.

Its one thing to talk about how our brains form the self etc but i am really interested in the buddhist perspective of how to live it out.

you may remember on teds podcast with thubten lekshe today about how they said that "others" didn't successfully translate their theories of being into a practical code which is why he was keen on buddhism. Its that part of it that i want to read about in a book. Although of course the books you mention are also worth reading too i'm sure and i will take a look.

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Post Re: Modern books on Buddhism
on: August 5, 2012, 11:45
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http://www.amazon.com/Kosambi-Intrigue-Tale-Buddha-ebook/dp/B007SWDG1S/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dpThis looks like fun. a historical buddhist thriller

I'm reading the reading list of This guy - Leign Brassington. http://www.leighb.com/index.html#aboutme

http://www.leighb.com/readlist.htm

I like the site. His brahma vihara "prayer" is the best i've come across yet i think.

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Post Re: Modern books on Buddhism
on: August 6, 2012, 18:26
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Candol, I decided since not self is such an important topic, and should be investigated deeply in practice, and because there is so much confusion about it, I'm going to write at least one article, possibly a series on it. I'm deep in the suttas this week, then I have the Buddhist Geeks conference to attend, so I hope to start the writing late next week.

So, stay tuned and thank you for your encouragement and expressing your interest!

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Candol
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Post Re: Modern books on Buddhism
on: August 6, 2012, 22:24
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I'll look forward to it.

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Post Re: Modern books on Buddhism
on: August 9, 2012, 20:58
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Hey thanks for the reminder. Just a few hours ago I was spinning my head around what book to get next. It was between "Focused and Fearless," "Beyond Mindfulness," "Wisdom, Wide and Deep," and "Mindfulness, Bliss and Beyond." I read ALL of their Table of Contents like five times trying to nail down differences. I went with "Focused and Fearless."
I did the Zen books to Theravada books switch a couple months ago. I'm sorry, but Theravada is just owning it right now!

Candol
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Post Re: Modern books on Buddhism
on: August 9, 2012, 22:29
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Which ones were the zen books then? And why are you sorry?

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on: August 10, 2012, 11:30
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Quote from Candol on August 9, 2012, 22:29
Which ones were the zen books then? And why are you sorry?

Oh man, everything from the "Idiots Guide to Zen Living" through all the intro books like Alan Watts' "What is Zen" and "Zen Meditation Plain and Simple" and the "Three Pillars of Zen". I still find value in them. I even recommended a couple of them: "Zen Mind, Beginners Mind" and "Zen Training."

I only say Sorry because I'm making a statement of stern preference for one brand over the other. It's like I'm discovering this whole new paradigm. Even when I was into Zen of course I read non Zen books but I don't think I would've discovered all these great teachers with these wonderful, practical books. Zen is like reading poetry about the forest: beautiful, powerful, reflective. Theravada is like reading instructions on how to plant trees and grow the forest.

mikec
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Post Re: Modern books on Buddhism
on: August 10, 2012, 12:34
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Quote from Dana Nourie on August 6, 2012, 18:26

, I decided since not self is such an important topic, and should be investigated deeply in practice, and because there is so much confusion about it, I'm going to write at least one article, possibly a series on it. I'm deep in the suttas this week, then I have the Buddhist Geeks conference to attend, so I hope to start the writing late next week.

I also look forward to your article. I have some difficulties with not-self too.

You know who gives great dharma talks without even knowing it? Radiolab. They're indirectly endorsing many Buddhist claims all the time on their radio show. This one episode on the self and where the self is located and the evolution of introspective consciousness I found very helpful.

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.radiolab.org/2007/may/07/where-is-that-part-that-is-me

Candol
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Post Re: Modern books on Buddhism
on: August 10, 2012, 15:22
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Zen is like reading poetry about the forest: beautiful, powerful, reflective. Theravada is like reading instructions on how to plant trees and grow the forest.

Yes i would agree. The only thing is the culture of theravada in asian countries appears to have some problems. But we don't have to deal with those in the west so we can benefit more easily.

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