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Candol
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Post Setting up a secular meditation centre.
on: June 18, 2012, 01:50
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See the third post, for a complete description of the project as at 19 June 2012

I am doing this in my town. I thought it might be good to have a diary of progress here on this site because part of my plan is that what i am doing can be used as a model and hopefully inspiration for others to start up their own so that there are lots of these all over the country and the globe.

Also you may remember that when i first posted about this on the UK website, i posted a link on facebook page for people's information. AT that point, it was just an idea. And i even remember saying well i have a lot of good ideas but i don't always do anything about them. So then i decided to start diarising my activities and progress publicly. I have been doing that on the uk website and you can read about that to date if you want to. But now i want to stop doing much detail over on that site as its too public. On this site i am working not in my real name so anyone googling it will not find it and its possible to imagine that if i'm not careful i could undermine my own cause by being that public if i were to continue posting over there. So i think here may be a better place as you wont find this thread by googling it i think. AT least not by using my name.

When i get a chance, I will post about my latest understanding of the project and where i'm up to. Once again the reason i am doing this is so hat others can see how it can be done and may realise that its possible in any community anywhere if someone wants to take it onboard.

Candol
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Post Re: Setting up a secular meditation centre.
on: June 18, 2012, 01:59
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http://secularbuddhism.co.uk/2012/03/idea-for-meditation-spaces-in-public-places/

This is the link to the diary of the journey so far.

As of the things have progressed in a positive way quite significantly. I think i have about 4 or 5 people on my working group.

I have a good contact in council who will help distribute my petition for community support to some relevant organisations around the place. I was talking to her about finding a place to start a meditation group which is cost free.

I am currently looking for a free place to start a meditation group and also a place to start a depression support group. When i get the latter group going, i will probably adopt a 12 step program to model it on as these provide structure which is necessary to avoid just a common gabfest.

I've got a few tentaive possibilities for a free place. In order to find these places i've had to be able to justify why i should be allowed to have such a place for free and why my groups and the centres acivities should be run on a donations only basis. There are two reasons which i now cite. ONe is for the good of personal development a la buddhismi - cultivating generosity and good will etc in the individual and secondly to make the activities available to everyone as easily as possible. I especially think of the poorest people in the society as i want them to feel they can come. Also the donations systems means that people can try different things because there is no financial reason stopping them. Also you can't charge people to attend a support group. If i have coffee and things like that around when the centre is running, then people will have contribute to that off course and if i run weekend meditation retreats as i would like to, then there will have to be a fixed amount that people will have to pay to cover the food expenses. But dana will still be dana. I will be sure to activitly encouraging people to give dana. I won't just have a pot at hte door way that everyone can ignore without a second thought. On the other hand, i don't want to bore everyone with undue pressure. But the offerings tray as it is done in church is a good thing to keep in mind. And i might even consider using that system. Not sure though.

Another development is that i've thought of an idea for a small business that can be run separately from the meditation centre. This business would raise funds for the centre so that we are less dependent on grants to fund it. I will not talk about the business here until its established or until i know we can do it. or not do it. What might not work here might work well in someone else's community. Suffice to say its a business than anyone can do. And suffice to say there does not have to be one type of business or way to make money to fund a meditation centre. Thsi is one way and i am glad i've thought of it. Had i not though of it and if it doesn't go ahead then i would just rely on income from government grants process.

I've looked on our local council website for information regarding grants and there are quite a lot of grants that we would be eligible for. In order to be able to apply for a grant, one has to form an organisation or get auspiced under an existing organisation. I'm doing both at this point. But i've just found out that it doesn't cost much at all to set up a not-for profit organisation. Only about $40 for the application fee. I think its a bit of work working it out though. And i think i hope i can hand that job to someone else. You also need a president (me) a treasurer and someone else which i can't remember right now. This is hte core of the working group but you want a bigger group of supporters involved. I've started seeking these people and i thnk i have now about 5 people who are keen or probably keen to be involved in this way, so that really makes me feel that this project has a chance now.

I'm preparing some information so that a local online news paper can present my project to the community and ask for input and support. The editor has already agreed. I also asked for continued free promotion. I have to contact the local newpaper again with regard to this as well. They've already published one letter some time back to make people aware that my project is in the ether.

So the three things i'm working on now is
1. find a free place to start a meditation group and a support group and run each on a weekly basis.
2. gather letters and indications of community support by emails to note a persons willingness to be involved in the project and a petition to show basic support from the community.
3. establish a working group (which is essential for applying for funding.)

4. Meanwhile i continue to seek support from auspicing bodies, and government which will be detailed either already or down the track but not right here. And other organisations that we need on our side.

I've also already approached the local AA group to invite them to run their group from our centre and to invite someone to be on the working group. There was the unexpected result that people in AA might be keen to try meditation although they'd never given a second thought before. So that made me feel very good.

The kind of people i've begun approaching to be on the working group are people who are involved in the area of meditaiton, spiritual practice and 'healing arts'. I got their numbers from teh advertisements in our local phone book. I've been pleasantly surprised that not all are airfy fairy types. I've found one woman already takes a vipassana style meditation group. One woman who has a japanese style massage and therapies business and she has an interesting meditation technique that i'd never heard off. I have another woman who is a bit involved in things that dont interest me but i think her meditaiton style is still useful for people since she's already got a group going. And she seems like a nice person. Its jsut going to be a little challenge to make sure her psychic type activities don't start playing a part at the centre as i feel its important that our activities are kept pretty maintstream if we don't want to alienate useful people like council. I'd rather have maintstream medical people onside too and if its too whacky, they will not come round.

I've also been consulting the yoga center and the medical centres looking for indications of support in the manner of referral of patients and customers. The yoga centre has already said that they would promote the centre. And i can see how the centre could reciprocate promotion by allowing them to hold one off short yoga demonstrations or workshops in order that they might reach new customers.

To find a vacant building where the centre could live for a while, i've been talking to real estate people and business people. these people have been great with ideas for where else to look. One put me on to hte fitness centres and as a result of that there's a website that promotes all these sorts of activities and i've been offered the chance to promote the meditation centre there too. It won't cost me i believe because this is a community non-profit project. It might be this same person who will have a suitable space available for running a depression group. I have to go and check it out this week.

If anyone has any questions after reading this feel free to ask. If you have any suggestions you can also feel free to make them. HOwever before doing that i hope you will understand what the project is so that you don't waste your time.

Candol
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Post Re: Setting up a secular meditation centre.
on: June 18, 2012, 07:13
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THE PROJECT.

I'm proposing a meditation and support centre which will run on the dana (or donation) system rather than fees. It's to be a non-commercial, non-profit organisation. Meditation traditions have a history of providing services on a voluntary donation system and i propose to use this approach in order that more people in the community can access our activities and benefit as fees are such a barrier to access. Dana is about fostering goodwill towards others, community spirit, generosity in oneself, and demonstrating appreciation for what you value in tangible ways. If you don't give, what you value may fail and the voluntary nature of this is strengthening for individual character. The onus is thus on the people using the centre to keep it going but by cultivating the qualities of goodwill and generosity.

The activities of the centre will be limited to meditation sessions, support groups such as AA, and weekend long meditation retreats. The centre is to be understood as a secular ie non-religious organisation but is going to inclusive rather than exclusive. The approach i take to meditation is non-religious. Other types of support groups that may be applicable to the centre are depression support, GRow (a mental health group run on a 12 step program) and codependents anonymous (also 12 step), gamblers anon or any 12 step program, drug recovery, illness, grief. I'm even thinking of approaching a psychologist friend to see if she would like to organise a support group for teens who might be struggling with issues. She would probably be the only professional involved but that is because of the nature of the matter.

There are three stages to this project.

THE FIRST STAGE of the project is to establish the centre in an existing vacant building. Council has advised me take this approach as a first step. This centre, would only be open for business for group activities. For this i will have to set up as a non-profit organisation but to get that far we will try to be auspiced under the wing of another existing community organisation.

THE MIDDLE STAGE is very special to me and its basically where this whole project started. I am not suggesting that this part of the project would be done anywhere else necessarily, although i think if it could be the case, it would be great. Inspired by the book by Alain de Botton, "Religion for Atheists", i got the idea that my town would be a great place to build A MAJOR PUBLIC ART WORK that functions as a meditation space. I will be working with arts organisations to pursue this part of the project. This particular centre would be such that when a group is not being held, individuals could come and meditate or reflect on their own. People would be attracted by the knowledge that there is a public art work worth seeing so it even has tourist relevance. In the building, i would like there to be some recorded guided meditations so that people who might never be drawn to meditation could give it a go just to know what it is. I see this as an effective way to promote meditation and greater mental health awareness to people even beyond our own community (as tourism is a significant industry in this town) and this will help soften the way for the next stage.

There is a specific government grant in my region that applies to this project - the combination of public art and community.

The bigger picture and THE END STAGE, is the hope is that with the establishment of the first stage of this project that we will have A MODEL that can be promoted to other communities around the country so that every town may have their own meditation and support centre where people can go for all kinds of mental health support as an adjunct to professional services. Its my view that the professions of psychiatry and psychology cannot not provide sufficient support for all who need it and many people in the community do not have such strains on them that they even need attend a medical practitioner at all but would benefit from meditation. So our centre fills the gaps left by professional services. This would be both a healing and preventative organisation; one that promotes social harmony and mental wellbeing throughout the community. With this centre, people would have low cost, quick and easy access to support.

mufi
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Post Re: Setting up a secular meditation centre.
on: June 18, 2012, 08:11
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Candol: That sounds like a great idea.

My gut reaction is to suggest adding some kind of support for increased physical activity, given the sedentary nature of much of modern life (says the guy sitting before his laptop) and what we now know about the health benefits of such (mental, as well as physical, if you'll excuse the dualist overtones).

However, I understand how that complicates things (e.g. by raising costs and legal risks), and everything you mentioned sounds worthy in its own right, besides.

Good luck!

Candol
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Post Re: Setting up a secular meditation centre.
on: June 18, 2012, 09:51
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Thank mufi. Where i live there are plenty of cheap opportunities for people to do physical exercise on their own. and even some affordable options re classes and such.

And i don't want to start trying to compete with with the gyms etc as that would put them offside. I think it will work better in partnershp though one thing that might work would be to help people organise to go and do stuff together such as a walking group or a running group or any other group. If we can get enough community size, i am sure that should be quite easy to start.

So thanks for prompting the idea. You've made a really great suggestion that i wouldn't have thought of. I'm definitely going to keep this on mind.

Candol
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on: June 18, 2012, 09:51
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mufi
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Post Re: Setting up a secular meditation centre.
on: June 18, 2012, 11:29
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Candol: That makes sense. (And you're welcome.)

I like your idea of facilitating group formations. I'm aware of such groups in my neck of the woods: e.g. for cyclists who get together and tour the local (mostly rural) roads. There's also a free uni-cyclist class, which my neighbor raves about. And I may have already mentioned here how enthusiastic I am about the new yoga studio in my village.

I guess my suggestion was partly motivated by a concern for those who (for whatever reason) shun gyms, yoga studios, and clubs for the physically active like these. In some cases, physical disability is the obvious cause, but in other cases I suspect that it boils down to experiential avoidance (e.g. as a coping strategy for strong, negative emotions like fear, anxiety, etc.). Even just getting these folks to come out is a step in the right direction, and if you can get them to walk more (meditatively or otherwise), then that's even better.

BTW, I haven't read de Botton's book, but I am sympathetic to the thesis that religion has certain advantages over secularism in terms of its ability (honed over centuries) to enchant and console people. Sure, I'll be the first to admit that truth is intrinsically valuable, even if all else being equal it makes me feel worse. But all else doesn't have to be equal, and secular* groups can surely do more to help people flourish, without compromising one iota of the truth.

* Caveat: The "secular" designation does not necessarily rule a lot of non-religious, spiritual mumbo-jumbo and woo, which also abounds in my neck of the woods. I guess that's just an occupational hazard of being human.

Candol
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on: June 22, 2012, 04:36
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A little breakthrough. And i mean in terms of what has to be accomplished this is very small but i think very significant.

One of the local medical practices (in fact the one where i go for treatment but i wouldn't presume that necessarily is meaningful) has agreed to support my project; providing me with a letter of support that i may submit to funding bodies and also referring patients to us for meditation and support. Now i can say to anyone else who might hold doctors opinions in high esteem, hey the doctors support why not you?

Secondly, and less positively, our political climate is looking rather grim. I've been chatting to a few people in the know and they are talking about drastic budget cuts everywhere. There's not going to be much money around from state and council for a while. And if we have a change of government at the federal level, which is likely at the next election, there won't be much that could come from there either. They are on a mission to put public servants out of work and public services into mothballs which also means, new projects won't stand much of a chance. I' think i've got my timing wrong politically. By the time i am ready to submit my big grant applications there will be a change of government at the federal level most likely. However i hope it won't turn out that way.

Still i'm not giving this up just yet. I am keen to subvert this money economy when money is asked for things that should be free because it bears no expense. Of course money will be required for my project but not for everything if we can motivate people to show generosity when they've nothing to lose by it and everything to gain.

Candol
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on: June 24, 2012, 06:33
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I led my first meditation group yesterday. Only i was the only one there! The one person i thought was coming did not show up. And as yet i haven't found out why. I am concerned because i thought she was going to be joining our project working group. Anyway it nice to meditate in the park. I haven't done that before.

My own buddhist teacher tonight told us he had had the experience of being aware that he was aware that he was aware. I can do the first two but the third one is something i've not arrived at. We were talking about the unconditioned... Which makes me want to ask a question.

Candol
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on: June 29, 2012, 13:22
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Last post about this on this forum.

Yesterday i did my first appeal to the public to gather support for this project. I got about 60 signatures when hanging about out side the local supermarket. In a town with a population of 3000, this is pretty good for 2.5 hours i think. It seemed like almost everyone who had time to sign were in support. I think i will aim for about 500.

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